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StephenCoote
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Topic: Reassure me about the strength of kukri handles Posted: 20/Nov/2009 at 07:09 |
I've only been using kukris for maybe two or three years, and I certainly haven't had a problem with a handle breaking or coming loose. But considering the nuggety build of the blades, the tangs and handles seem to be comparatively weak. I have no doubt that the Nepalese know what they are doing, and I figure that if they felt a full tang was necessary we'd see more full tangs.
With light chopping and slicing tasks I dont think there is a problem. But what if the blade jams in a log and you give it a bigger than usual heave to get it out? etc etc.
So please tell me what you think.
Some reassuring stories about the toughness of the standard stick tang handle would be nice.
Thanks in advance.... Coote.
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bigdog
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Posted: 20/Nov/2009 at 12:15 |
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I have not used Kukris for that long but my first BSI pattern 2 was beaten senseless on a tree stump including being buried up to the back edge and levered free.I was able to repair the few dings that the edge took in a matter of minutes
I would trust Tora blades without hesitation
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Posted: 20/Nov/2009 at 13:17 |
i'll second what bigdog has said ive seen the odd kuk being used/abused
and ive never seen one break minor dinks in the cutting edge yes
thats normal in every day usage.
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Sirupate
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Posted: 20/Nov/2009 at 16:22 |
Hello Coote,
Well the partial and stick tang are my favourite user types, as they are in Nepal, and of course the majority of Gurkha issue kukri over the years were either stick or partial tang as well. The MkII and the MkIII notably as well as the W/S MkIV, which was copied from the MkIII anyway, although made to W/S specs of course were all full tang, but that just presents a different set of problems.
I think I have had 4-5 stick tang failures in 10 years with all the kukri I have had made for Tora, so not to bad 
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StephenCoote
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Posted: 20/Nov/2009 at 16:57 |
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Good. Thanks. More comments welcome.
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Posted: 23/Nov/2009 at 13:36 |
Hi Coote
I'm glad you like your Tamang Kukri  ,as for the handle strength I haven't had any problems with stick tangs and I'm not a big fan of full tang Kukri,I don't find them very comfortably to use for heavy chopping.Also , you probably already know,a good soaking of linseed oil will do the handle alot of good  .
You have mentioned that you're on the look out for a smaller version of the Tamang,well I know its not a kukri but the Village Karda I've just bought is a cracking knife,I love it.
I'm a fan of flat grind edges on utility knives,and the karda has a very agressive cutting edge indeed,very similar to the Scandi grind knives that are popular at the moment,the only difference being,the karda is a lot bigger and heavier ,it feels so practical when its in your hand you don't want to put it down.Anyway thats enough of that,and of cause it's just my opinion,and we all have different veiws on what makes a good blade.
I look forward to reading how you get on with the Tamang on its first hunting trip,and good luck. 
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Posted: 23/Nov/2009 at 16:04 |
I've got to do a field report of the Karda
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StephenCoote
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Posted: 23/Nov/2009 at 20:18 |
Well I might just be the man for that field report Simon. I might even make a small financial contribution toward its success. Is the handle of that karda just drilled then bashed on to the tang, or does the tang go right through to the end of the handle where it is riveted over? (I doubt that it matters either way).
You have more or less convinced me Angrej. I have had a hankering for a big American bowie for general use, but the more I look into it, the more this kind of thing appeals to me. Plus I am so impressed with the utility of the kukri shape and the Tora quality. So a smaller, straighter pointy blade like the Tamang or the village karda should do what a bowie can do and more. Plus it doesn't fit the stereotype of 'violent criminal' like a store-bought bowie might.
I am a metalworker by trade, and I've made many knives. I could, I suppose, make the knife of my dreams but I am not currently geared up for it. Plus I admire the work of the Nepalese that Ive seen so far, and it is nice to have something genuine from a knowledgable culture that is the product of many generations of hard work and wisdom.
I'd really like one to play with, especially if the same care has gone into the heat treating like my other two Tora blades. I don't mind how rough or rusty it appears to be, provided that the blade is a good one. Doesn't need a sheath either, although that would be nice. I guess what I am saying is I don't really want to be seen to be spending too much on blades right now....
Is there anything like this in stock? If so, please tell me the details ...... along with the price and shipping costs... in a private message maybe.
With excited anticipation...... best wishes.... Coote.
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Posted: 24/Nov/2009 at 12:41 |
Watch out for the next DOD Coote
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Posted: 24/Nov/2009 at 17:12 |
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Thanks. Looking forward to it.
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Posted: 06/Dec/2009 at 00:22 |
The thing that seems to take most damage when cutting/splitting logs is obviously the blade, not the handle.  Mine has gotten some rough treatment for a few months now and only needed sharpening after each use. So so far its been holding on great. I say rough since i am maybe somewhat of a hardcore user when it comes to knives....
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Posted: 06/Dec/2009 at 11:45 |
Coote, I'd say this. With ANY product made by a person, there is always a "possibility" of failure. Nothing's perfect, and anything is possible.
With that being said, I've used many of my kukris hard. Not being nice to them. Not babying them. And even as you mentioned, having to wrench, twist, pry, lever, and do whatever's possible, to get my kukri out of a piece of wood. Just like an axe, it's very possible to get a kukri stuck in wood. This leaves you with 2 options. Pound it "through" the wood, or get it "out" of the wood, one way or another.
Here's a pic, I think you'll be able to appreciate. The wood is Big Leaf Maple. It's hard, and really tough.
Now, keep this in mind. The kukri, is one of my GAK's. (15" blade, 38+ cm iirc) The stump it's stuck in, is appx. 15 or so inches tall. So, the total height is over 1 meter. I chopped all that wood, with that kukri. (in about an hour) I would think, that if the handle were going to fail, it would fail durring use, and not necessarily due to a short period of extra difficulty. (though, as I said, anything's possible)
I hope this helps calm your nerves. Personally, I have no worries about tang failure at all. And, even if it happened, just let Simon know, and he'll take care of you.
mike
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Posted: 06/Dec/2009 at 14:33 |
That pic is torture  I love that kukri
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Posted: 12/Dec/2009 at 19:05 |
Well, I didn't post it to torture you Simon. Just to prove a point. The handles are plenty strong to withstand the force that can be generated by the kukri.
mike
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Posted: 12/Dec/2009 at 20:49 |
I know Mike, but I can't help but drool
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